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U.S. Route 8

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{{Wikipedia:Featured article tools|1=U.S. Route 8}} U.S. Route 8 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class

Nominator's comments: This would be the first A-Class article for MN and WI if promoted.

Nominated by: Imzadi 1979 → 04:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

First comment occurred: 04:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Review by TCN7JM

Review by TCN7JM

I will begin a review of this article immediately. TCN7JM 04:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

1. Two decimal places for "280.00 miles" looks weird, even though it is exactly that long. I don't think this needs any decimal places.
2. I feel like the first mention of Taylors Falls should be linked and that that couple of sentences should be reworded using a different adjective where Taylors Falls is linked now.
3. Splitting the second section of the RD into two paragraphs seems a baffling thing to do. Also, those two sentences in the second paragraph don't really flow into each other.
4. Just before this, in the first paragraph, you have three sentences in a row starting with "US 8", and it's mentioned like that four times in those three sentences.
5. In the third section, two straight sentences begin with "The highway".
6. Norway is never linked to in the last section of the RD.
7. Do you mean Taylors Falls when you mention Taylor Falls in the history?

I'll leave this here for you to fix. TCN7JM 06:17, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Copy editing and fixes applied. Imzadi 1979 → 06:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Support TCN7JM 06:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Image review by Dough4872

• I will review this article. Dough4872 17:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• Actually, I will do the image review instead since I reviewed this at GAN. Dough4872 16:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

1. File:US 8.svg - PD by author, shouldn't it be PD-MUTCD?
2. File:US 8 map.png - PD by author
3. File:Taylors Falls.JPG - CC-BY-SA 3.0
4. File:US Route 8 Rural Lincoln County Wisconsin.jpg - CC-BY-SA 3.0
5. File:US8EastTerminusNorwayMichiganNov2009.jpg - CC-BY-SA 3.0
6. File:Rhinelander WI area, 1924.png - PD not renewed, image caption could use some more context.
7. File:US8 Junction US51 Looking East.jpg - CC-BY-SA 3.0

Noted a couple concerns above. Dough4872 16:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Borrowing a trick from my US 23 work, I highlighted WIS 14's routing on the map and updated the caption to reflect that fact. The map was included because the text in that section discusses routing changes in the 1920s, so context was already in place. Imzadi 1979 → 22:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

• Support - Images look good now. Dough4872 00:05, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment by Royalbroil

I came across the article while being a Wikipedia consumer something caught me as wrong while I was reading the lead. I noticed that the lead describes 2 areas with an undivided surface road. However, there is another short divided segment at US51 as shown in my photograph - where it is a diamond interchange. I've driven most of the route and that's the only segment that I can recall off the top of my head. Royalbroil 13:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I can tweak the mention in the lead, but I don't think calling out a segment of highway that's only divided to pass through an interchange is the same as the other segments. Imzadi 1979 → 02:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Review by Nbound

Review by Nbound

• Lead doesnt mention divided section in Rhinelander, despite specifically excepting two other areas
  • Tweaked along with a minor change to deal with Royalbroil's comment above. Imzadi 1979 → 03:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• The highway continues east through Center Lake between North and South Center Lakes, curving around the north shore of South Center Lake. On the eastern edge of town, it turns due east... -> "The highway continues east between North and South Center Lakes, curving around the north shore of South Center Lake. Upon reaching the eastern edge of the town of Center Lake, it turns due east" or similar (Optional)
  • The second town isn't Center Lake, it's Shafer... the town of Center Lake is back between the two lakes... I've added "town of", but I can't move the town's name because the two sentences reference separate locations. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Nevermind, different changes applied int he vicinity of that sentence. Try that. Imzadi 1979 → 04:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• What exactly is a constitutional route, and a legislative route, is there a significance to these titles? Is it just the nth route mentioned in an amendment?
  • Wikilink to Legislative route (Minnesota) added. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• forest lands -> "forested land" ?
  • Either is appropriate in AmEng, so I'm leaving that one alone. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• The highway continues due east for five miles (8.0 km) -> "The highway continues due east for an additional five miles (8.0 km)" or similar. Im assuming this is an extension of the previous straight; if not, that should be made clearer.
  • Done. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• on a twisting northeastward road -> "on a twisting northeasterly alignment"
  • Done. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• Contractors had install metal sheeting to stabilize the marshy ground. -> "had to install" or "have installed" depending on actual scenario.
  • Good catch, done. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• bypass of town -> "bypass of the town"
  • That's a bit comme ci, comme ça in AmEng... in this case, it's a bypass of the general "urbanized" area that is Rhinelander, so the generic "town" works... technically if I wanted to refer to Rhinelander in specific, it would be "the city"; "the town" would refer in Wisconsin to governmental unit equivalent to a township in Michigan or Minnesota. Imzadi 1979 → 03:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Tweaked it to "downtown". Imzadi 1979 → 03:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
• Might be worth adding a {{-}} or {{clear}} below the last image in the RD. (Optional)

As always, all my points are open for discussion. -- Nbound (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

• Support -- Nbound (talk) 04:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Review by Rschen7754

I will review this article. --Rschen7754 16:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Infobox

• Precision does not match between mi and km.

RJL

• No issues.

References

• Several dead links, but I think you're aware of that already.

Future

• No issues.

Lead

• before being returned to Forest Lake ... ?

More later. --Rschen7754 08:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Adding that the route description seems to have too many subsections. --Rschen7754 22:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Route description

• continues running - redundancy
• The highway turns along a more easterly path in Lindstrom between North and South Lindstrom lakes, then it crosses into the town of Center City. - run-on
• diamond interchange should be linked.
• section 1.2 - too many uses of "highway"
• US 8 turns northeast into Oneida County and onto a twisting northeasterly alignment passes through Woodboro and expands to a divided highway into Rhinelander. - restructure
• US 8 intersects with US 45 south in Monico and WIS 47 follows US 45 south while US 45 north follows US 8 for one mile (1.6 km) before splitting to the north. - needs some commas somewhere

History

• the remainder of what is now US 8 was unnumbered secondary highways and WIS 14 ran north of Armstrong Creek to Florence. - trying to do too many things with this sentence.
• The highway... thrice in a row.
• was then redesignated MN 98 until 1998. - until?
• plans on their books - too informal
• in 2011, not 2013 for the inflation
• Bill and Jerri Osberg sued the state and seven other parties over runoff from the construction in April 2003. They claimed that the runoff killed hundreds of trees and polluted ponds on their property. - could be tightened
• The contractor was seeking the return of its retainer. - same here
• should Northern be capitalized? --Rschen7754 22:56, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Corrections applied. As the name of a region of the state, I left "Northern" capitalized in the last bullet point. Imzadi 1979 → 07:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Support though having the dead links fixed would be necessary for a support at FAC. --Rschen7754 07:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Spotcheck by Rschen7754

Once the deadlink issues are fixed I will spotcheck. --Rschen7754 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Checking 17 sources: Source 8: No issues. Source 22: Not really seeing it on the attached map. Source 29: It's clear that US 8 was extended, but the street intersection is not indicated anywhere. Source 35: No issues. Source 39: No issues. Source 40: No issues. Source 41: Having difficulties verifying this, but other maps (1977-78 for example) do verify it better. Source 46: Maps do not verify this - perhaps the wrong years are used? Source 48: No issues. Source 53: No issues. Source 55: Where does November 1 come from? Source 56: No issues. Source 57: No issues. Source 58: No issues. Source 59: No issues. Source 60: No issues. Source 64: No issues. Spotcheck done, just a few minor issues. --Rschen7754 00:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC) FN22: Powers isn't explicitly labeled on that map, but that is the location where US 2, US 8 and US 41 meet or cross in that five-way intersection on the map. Cross referencing with any general map of Michigan with cities and villages labeled will verify that. FN29: text altered to be less specific. FN41: a-ha! The sentence was saying it that MN 98 was decommissioned in the 1990s, so I restored that and inserted a before cite to go with the after cite. FN46 47 whatever it is now... OK, re-reviewed that stuff... and changed that around a bit. Regarding FN55 56 whatever it is now..., we have have an issue with variations between the version originally consulted online and the version retrieved from the microfilms. I altered this accordingly (I have not had time yet to re-read all 8 articles I retrieved from the library today, but that is one of the articles where the publication date is one day different between the two versions.) Looks like we're done then, I think. Imzadi 1979 → 05:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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