MyWiki:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject SZA (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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This is a recently-created, highly niche WikiProject (focusing on a single musical artist) whose creator has since been indefinitely blocked and only has three other participants. It didn't follow the recommended process for creating a wikiproject by proposing it and gathering a group of interested editors before creation. Unfortunately we know from experience that such narrowly-focused wikiprojects are almost never successful and just end up cluttering projectspace and diluting attention from other, broader and more viable, collaborations in the subject area. Creating a SZA task force of WikiProject Music might be an alternative, but again this needs more than a few interested editors to be meaningful. – Joe (talk) 15:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't notice the previous nomination until now, but it closed as no consensus and I think the reasoning above still holds. – Joe (talk) 15:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete we do not need an individual WikiProject for a singer. Catfurball (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I think that my previous !vote for Weak Keep was mistaken because I did not take its out-of-process creation into account. Also, since the first MFD, the originator has been indefinitely blocked by the community. Remaining good-standing editors should consider a task force. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Wikiproject pages should be those of real and functioning projects, and article talk pages should not have project tags for wikiprojects that were only nominally there but never really got off the ground. Abortive wikiprojects created outside of the recommended process should be deleted.—Alalch E. 21:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I was the one who said in the previous MfD that this should've been created as a task force under a more general WikiProject. Still, there are very few (read: one) people who actually consistently edit SZA-related pages anyway---the rest joined after that MfD---so I don't think even a task force would be useful. This discussion raises a compelling argument about whether we should convert most musician WPs into task forces, and I look forward to seeing where that goes. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 03:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, scope seems too small to require a discussion space outside of the article talkpages. As a related aside, interested editors may find tools like Wikipedia:WikiProject SZA/Assessment and Wikipedia:WikiProject SZA/Article alerts useful even at small scales, decoupling them from Wikiprojects (converting all instances to task forces to preserve the tools seems unideal) may be useful. CMD (talk) 10:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Great idea. This has come a few times as I've been reviewing inactive wikiprojects recently. Even after the projects die, people find the assessment tables and article alerts useful, though they also become less useful over time because nobody is keeping the banners of dead wikiprojects updated. I wonder if they could be made to work with mainspace categories instead? – Joe (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Categories is a great idea. Category:SZA has the relevant articles to here. Banners not being updated is hopefully less of an issue with WP:PIQA formally unifying assessments, but still worse than categories. Food for longer-term thought. CMD (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Great idea. This has come a few times as I've been reviewing inactive wikiprojects recently. Even after the projects die, people find the assessment tables and article alerts useful, though they also become less useful over time because nobody is keeping the banners of dead wikiprojects updated. I wonder if they could be made to work with mainspace categories instead? – Joe (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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