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May 24

Wikilobby page

How come when I type "Wikipedia noticeboard incidents" into Google it shows me that Wikilobby page instead of the actual incidents page - something should be done about that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Hooves (talk • contribs) 00:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Mr. Hooves: Wikipedia and Google are two completely separate entities and we have zero control over Google's content. If you want something changed on Google you will have to contact them. There is nothing we can do about it. --Majora (talk) 01:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents has personal discussions we don't want external search engines to index so we deliberately add noindex to the page. In addition it is also covered by entries in https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt:

Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia_talk%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard

There are multiple entries because the exact url can vary and robots.txt does not allow wildcards or similar. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby campaign does currently not have noindex. In theory it should be covered by the above robots.txt entries but somewhere Google found a url with a fifth form and indexed that. Specifically, they found a link saying %2527 instead of %27, where %25 is percent-encoding for % itself. We could add noindex to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby campaign to avoid indexing no matter which url a search engine finds. See also Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, if WT:AN is on robots.txt as disallow then that file is broken. Since it comes up on Google as the first search result when I type "Wikipedia admin noticeboard" --Majora (talk) 01:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

The issue is again that Google found a url saying %2527 instead of %27. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard has noindex but Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard does not. Maybe we should more systematically use {{NOINDEX}} to add noindex to pages instead of relying on url forms in robots.txt. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Automatic categorization of articles on a template

Is there a way all articles on template can be placed into category? Best Regards Sulaimandaud (talk) 06:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sulaimandaud: Yes, but please don't do it, see WP:TEMPLATECAT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:05, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Ok got the point. now i have to place 200 articles manually in the category Sulaimandaud (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sulaimandaud:Not necessarily manual. If you have a list of the articles involved and a consensus (or its an obvious required edit) to add the them to that category, you could get it done via a bot or AWB. see WP:BOTREQ or WP:AWB/Tasks - X201 (talk) 08:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Yoon jik-yoon

This isn't the place for a draft article

Eldest Daughter of South Korean Actor Yoon Tae-wook or known for Bae Soo-bin.

In this Korean name, the family name is Yoon. In the stage name or pen-name, the surname is Abian.

Khristine Yoon
Born	Yoon ji-kyeon(2002) Khristine Grace Manabat Abian(2005) (2002-02-19) February 19, 2002 Manila, Philippines
Years active	2002—present
Parents	Bae Soo-bin or Yoon tae-wook Biological Father (s. 2001) Unnamed(s. 2005-2017) Step Father. (father) Unnamed (mother)
Korean name
Hangul	윤지문켠
Revised Romanization	Yoon ji-kyun
McCune–Reischauer	Yun gi-kyun
Birth name
Hangul	윤지켠
Revised Romanization	Khristine Manabat Abian
McCune–Reischauer	Khristine Grace

"Yoon ji-kyun" (Born Khristine Grace Manabat Abian February 19, 2002) She is the daughter of South Korean Actor Bae soo-bin Or Yoon tae-wook.

New article for politician

Hello

next month there will be general elections in France, and I see that only 1 candidate (former government member) has a wiki article. Is it possible to add a page for the other candidates in my district?

Thank you Best EtienneEtienneSoumoy (talk) 10:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@EtienneSoumoy: It depends on the candidates. WP:POLITICIAN says:

Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article".

PrimeHunter (talk) 10:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:: the candidates are cited in trustworthy newspapers, although there are quite recent candidates, and the quotes were all made when candidates were given the authorization to apply to be an MP by their own party 2 weeks ago. Does it mean a page can be created to report what is known about these candidates?

Thank you EtienneSoumoy (talk) 10:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@EtienneSoumoy: The specific candidates and sources would have to be evaluated. I don't know French. WP:POLITICIAN links to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes#Politicians. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:45, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Citing the same source multiple times throughout the Wikipedia page

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and I am having trouble citing sources within the document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmurray06 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Looking at the draft you're working on, you're almost there. You first define a source like this: (using your example)

<ref name="Fire Insurance Company">{{cite web|title=An Outstanding Fire Insurance Company|url=http://kent.migenweb.net/towns/lowell/1931/fireins.html|website=migenweb|publisher=The Lowell Ledger|accessdate=23 May 2017}}</ref>

Then, later in the page, when you want to cite again:

<ref name="Fire Insurance Company" /> Xenon54 (talk) 14:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Help editing

How can I edit a company page correctly without having the information/changes removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaralynDuke (talk • contribs) 14:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@CaralynDuke: In general, make sure any changes you make are supported by reliable sources and add citations (see WP:REFB for help on that). If you can please say which page you are trying to edit, then we can provide more specific advice. RudolfRed (talk) 16:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Template help

bsd. I need help adding a logo parameter to this template. Thanks --Ben Stone 15:42, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Can photographs taken illegally be used on Wikipedia?

The PATH system bans photography within stations without express permission from the transit agency, although as the discussion on this point within in the article indicates, it's questionable whether that's a ban that would hold up to scrutiny in court. At any rate, a user just removed all photographs taken within the system from the article, with the edit summary "Per the restrictions on photography, all images of the PATH system must be able to demonstrate that official permission was granted, else these images were illegally obtained." This strikes me as extremely overzealous: the only restriction on using photos on Wikipedia to my knowledge is that they must be properly licensed, and the legality of the circumstances of how they photos were acquired is irrelevant to that. Am I correct or is the user who removed the photos? --Jfruh (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

May want to take this to Wikipedia talk:Image use policy instead? Seems like a better-targeted venue. That said, I see nothing there clearly indicating, to me, that these pictures would be inappropriate. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Or c:COM:VPC over on Wikipedia Commons. clpo13_(talk) 17:34, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Courtesy ping Morphenniel -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Restricted materials is probably the most relevant information page. You could also try emailing legal@wikimedia.org for their position on this. clpo13_(talk) 17:34, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I note that the over-zealous removal of images including this image clearly taken from outside PATH property (note the security fence between the photographer and the train) and this photograph taken from the opposite side of a road, neither of which would be in breach of PATH's restrictions (even if they had force here, which I cannot see that they do). I see that Murph9000 has just reverted the removal, a decision with which I agree. Bencherlite^Talk 17:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Adding pictures to an article

Can you please explain how I upload pictures into an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmurray06 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Here's one from my past. Just change the relevant info

[[File:Map of Davenport, Iowa Neighborhoods.png|right|thumb|alt=Description of the image]]

Not sure where there is a better explanation. CTF83! 18:19, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Uploading images DonIago (talk) 19:17, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

To clarify a bit – there is no way to "upload pictures into an article". The normal procedure is to upload pictures to Wikimedia Commons, and then use them in an article. Maproom (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Need help

Note This post copied from the talk page. Eagleash (talk) 19:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I've been searching for help on how to upload a page and it tells me to do research but I don't know how to upload one. Can someone help me? And I'm on my mobile device (phone) so is that a problem? Dinah Kirkland (talk) 19:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

What page are you trying to upload? If you're talking about actual text, to me it sounds like a potential copyright violation. DonIago (talk) 20:28, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Download as PDF

This doesn't work right for "List of cognitive biases". The engine doesn't render the big table of biases at all.

I have also tried to get pdf's of articles with equations in them. The equations don't always render right either. To cite a couple of specific examples:

In "Zero-sum game" the constraints (section 2.2) don't display right (probably the latex is not rendering right).

Some bits of latex in "Macroscopic quantum phenomena" didn't render either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.233.65.88 (talk) 20:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

How do I contact a Volunteer/contributor

I have a specific username from various articles and I have some information I need to pass on. this is all very new and complicated to me. I have the username and my information relates to background on a question he/she posted some time ago. Any help appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medwar57 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

In the search box type: User talk:The users name to find their talk page. - X201 (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Medwar57: You can also click "talk" next to the username in a page history. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

New article

how do you create a new article — Preceding unsigned comment added by KWan1569 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

To create an article, follow these steps:

1. Read Your first article carefully.
2. If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
3. Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
4. Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
5. Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
6. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
7. Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
8. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
9. Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
10. Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. Pppery 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

File:Crystal Clear app fonts.svg Please use a descriptive title in future questions.. Also, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: , but do not sign in articles. Pppery 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)