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Infratonic Therapy

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I find no references to the subject. For an introduction to the subject please refer to http://www.chi.us/ or http://www.soundvitality.com/ If they contribute please be sure it is written as factual and not an advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.81.221 (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

For Wikipedia to have an article on the subject, we would need evidence from third-party published reliable sources that it met our notability guidelines - and if it did, any claims that it had medical benefits would need to comply with the relevant reliability criteria. We don't carry articles on random quack cures sourced to promotional websites. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Uploading images

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What are the procedures for uploading pictures into Wikipedia? How about the copyright? I have images which I have made myself which I would like to upload. 1999sportsfan (talk) 08:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

See WP:UPLOAD and follow the links on that page for more info. And if you can, I'd recommend uploading to the Commons so that other language Wikipedias can use the images as well. Dismas|(talk) 10:35, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Editing Mobile CSS Overrides

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I am trying to hide in text citations on Wikipedia. I've discovered the mypage skins.CSS and common.CSS, and added the code to those. When added, citations are hidden in the normal desktop view, but when viewing from a mobile browser, it seems that the CSS being rendered with isn't passing via the common.CSS page. Is there any way to override CSS elements when viewing using the Mobile style of Wikipedia? Silivrenion (talk) 09:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

According to this Village Pump thread custom styling is currently ignored in mobile view. You can, however, force your mobile device into the desktop view by a link at the bottom of every page and your personal css will then take effect. SpinningSpark 10:31, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Human penis size

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In the article human penis size section Historical perceptions the reference to the context Of al-jahiz is wrong, kindly remove the reference along with Names. Zaib480 (talk) 10:47, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The source cited is quoted correctly. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:53, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Uploading Images for the band article - pictures from shows, logos and album covers

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Dear Wiki helpdesk,

I am writing an article about the band Stormy Atmosphere. It includes bands' biography, discography etc. I'd like to upload bands' logo, a picture from a show and two album covers. All these were made by professional designers and photographers, who sold the stuff to the band and/or granted all the rights to the it. I know the band members personally, but I assure you that all the info in the article is true, totally objective, and has independent proofs.

Please guide me how to enrich my article with these relevant pictures, with no risk of getting them used/stolen by some third party, because the band owns them and they wouldn't like them to be used by anyone without bands' permission.

Thank you in advance,

Truly

Silverray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverray123 (talkcontribs) 12:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Before concerning yourself with images, I think you should read Wikipedia:Notability (music). Judging by the draft article you have prepared, [1] I doubt that the band meets our notability guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
But if the band ever does "make-it", all pictures uploaded to Wikipedia Commons must be freely licensed; allowing anyone to use, edit, alter and redistribute them, for any purpose (including making a profit, or being derogatory), and you will have no control over this whatsoever. - Arjayay (talk) 16:27, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't think Arjayay's comment is completely clear, so I'll amplify it: in order for copyright pictures to be uploaded to Wikipedia Commons the holder of the copyright must explicitly license them using one of the licences accepted by Wikimedia. Doing so will grant anybody the right to use the image for any purpose, (including commercial purposes), as long as they attribute the image correctly; and the copyright holder will by licensing them have given up all control over their use. --ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers, but I'm quite new to this so please be patient with me :)
If I understand you correctly, all the relevant pictures can be uploaded here(commons), then I will be able to add them to the article
And by doing that I automatically allow anyone who desires to use these pictures for any purpose?
Thank you in advance,
Silverray

P.S - To Arjayay - The article has already been banned by other moderator who thought he band doesn't meet the criteria.
But then I provided independent proofs for all written in the article, and the content was restored.
You can see the details here


Dear Helpdesk,
Still waiting for your answer on this:
If I understand you correctly, all the relevant pictures can be uploaded here(commons), then I will be able to add them to the article
And by doing that I automatically allow anyone who desires to use these pictures for any purpose?
Do I understand the process right?

Thank you in advance,
Silverray

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverray123 (talkcontribs) 10:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Photos and copyright is a bit complicated, if there are band photos you have taken yourself (not ones you found online, such as promotional band shots, unless you can prove legal ownership (i.e. you were the photographer)) at a concert then you can upload then, you must release these photos under a free licence (allows anyone to use them, even commercially, forever) or public domain to use them on Wikipedia (see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials). Pretty much everything else is covered under fair use. Album covers can only be uploaded only to individual articles on the album itself (1 per article), unless the actual art work receives significant coverage from reliable sources. Logos are likely copyrighted (unless they use simple geometric shapes and text) and again, unless the actual art work receives significant coverage from reliable sources, they're a no-no. See Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria for a bit more detail on using non free photos. Commons is ONLY for free material that you own the copyright for (and simply claiming to represent the copyright holder isn't enough). Due care should be used when donating/uploading, or else they'll likely be deleted, you should read and understand all the guidelines/policies I have linked you to first. Яehevkor 10:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I should also note fair use images cannot be used in draft articles, only when an article is in the main namespace (no "User:" or "Draft:" or anything before the article name). Please don't use this as an indicator to move your draft now, it will be deleted. Яehevkor 10:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Silverray123, you said, “All these were made by professional designers and photographers, who sold the stuff to the band and/or granted all the rights to the it.” That is not the way professional designers and photographers typically work; instead the sell a limited license to the client, which does not allow the client to sublicense their work. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission if you want to use their work under a free license. —teb728 t c 11:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Serbian State Guard

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I am currently carrying out the translation of this article into Spanish. Nevertheless, I came across a problem when I tried to choose the appropiate title. I don't know whether the adjective «Serbian» refers specifically to the guard or to the state. That's why I would like to know if anyone here could help me understand the sense of the name. Unfortunately, I have no idea of Serbo-Croatian so neither can I try to guess the correct name that way. I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance, Rubpe19 13:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't know Serbian either, but the German translation in the article, Serbische Staatsgarde, is saying that it should be read as Serbian State-guard, rather than Serbian-state Guard. You could try asking someone in Category:Serbian Wikipedians. Or someone from this list of editors displaying the native Serbian Babel box. SpinningSpark 14:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thank you very much. I hadn't taken the German name into account. I really appreciate your help. Greetings, Rubpe19 14:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Youth culture

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Reference help requested.

Thanks, Cales23 (talk) 16:42, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


What was my error? Cales23 (talk) 16:42, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

@Cales23: Your cite template had both a "page" parameter and a "pages" parameter. The bot was being anal. it was fixed in this edit [2] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
The error is not generated by a bot but by the template. In the past, 'pages' would simply override 'page' and editors would get confused. Now we generate an error with a help link. --  Gadget850 talk 17:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Two errors. In each of the the error messages in the article, the word "help" is in blue, showing that it is a WP:wikilink. The first one linked to Help:CS1 errors#bad url, and the second to Help:CS1 errors#extra pages. Both have now been cured for you. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Zak Ibsen

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Please place the edit request at Talk: Zak Ibsen. However, identifying specific requested changes, rather than providing a complete alternate version of the article, is more likely to be useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Dear editors: I was checking out an old AfC submission which has an image brought in from Wikipedia Commons, File:Academy Color Encoding System Workflow Overview.png, which says it's licensed from http://www.oscars.org/science-technology/council/projects/pdf/ACESOverview.pdf . This appears to be copyrighted presentation. I read the information both on Commons (which says "report these on the talk page of the policy", but doesn't name or link whatever policy that is) and at Wikipedia:Non-free content review (which doesn't specifically say whether or not it is to be used for files which are on Commons rather than on English Wikipedia), and I am still not sure where or how to bring this file to the attention of someone who may know whether it's licensing is okay. Any advice? —Anne Delong (talk) 22:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The easiest way forward is to click the "nominate for deletion" link in the sidebar at Commons and then fill in the form. SpinningSpark 23:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Spinningspark. I tried that and it appeared to work. It opened a page similar to AfD. I will check back later and see the result. That's what I like about Wikipedia - I learn something new every day. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)