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September 2

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Is the subject of VEDIC ASTROLOGY approved by UGC.

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Please intimate which institution in India or abroad recognises study of VEDIC ASTROLOGY so that I may approach them for learning this great ancient scince of India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.55.253 (talk) 02:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried asking at the Humanities reference desk? --Jayron32 03:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Language to Language translation

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How do I activate the instant translation capability within Wikipedia such that when I am reading an article in one language I can use the cursor to see a translation, into a different language, of a word with which I am not familiar, eg: German to English?204.115.94.55 (talk) 06:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe there is such a capability for anonymous users. You may use either Google Translate or create an account and enable GoogleTrans in your Preferences under "Browsing gadgets". I would advise using Google Translate since no registration is required and it requires less hassle. Protector of Wiki (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
You can also switch to Google chrome as your browser. It autmatically recognizes foreign languages and ask you if you want to translate using google translate. ~~ GB fan ~~ 07:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, < math >A< / math > does not render as expected

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On my system, the "A" in <math>A^*</math> renders as slanted and serifed, as expected: "A*" (<math>A^*</math>) looks like "A *" ({{math|''A''<sup> *</sup>}}).

However, <math>A</math> unexpectedly renders as an upright, sans-serif "A": "A" (<math>A</math>) looks like "A" (A).

When I try the same on http://meta.wikimedia.org, "<math>A</math>" looks like "A" ({{math|''A''}}), as expected it renders as slanted and serifed.

The issue occurs for simple formulae like "A", "xy" or "AB=CD". For more complex formulae like "A*", the issue is not present.

As far as I can see, Wikipedia does not work as expected here. Why is this so? Can this be fixed? How? --RainerBlome (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

All the As look the same to me. Have you changed your user preferences at all? - Jarry1250 [Humorous? Discuss.] 10:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Good question. Yes, I have set "Appearance -> Math" to "MathML if possible (experimental)". And indeed, when I switch to "Recommended for modern browsers", it works, <math>A</math> yields the expected slanted, serifed "A". On http://meta.wikimedia.org, it worked because my MathML preference was not set there. Since my browser correctly displays a MathML test page, it appears that the HTML source is not generated correctly with the MathML setting. Thanks for your help. --RainerBlome (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Chamber Orchestra of Europe page

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Dear Sir or Madam,

A while ago, I updated extensively the Wikipedia page for the Chamber Orchestra of Europe, as I am their Marketing and PR manager (cf. www.coeurope.org). However, these changes seem to have been cancelled and the page reverted to the former text on 21st august at 00:09. Please could you let me know what happened and please could you make sure that the COE page reverts back to how I had changed it?

May thanks.

Kind regards,

Coralia Galtier —Preceding unsigned comment added by COEurope (talkcontribs) 14:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I wish to know whether "DOMJUR" constitutes part of Kolkata Metropolitan Area (KMA). Please inform me at: <address redacted>. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.126.196 (talk) 17:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But note that we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Good sockpuppets

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What should an admin do in this situation? A user is a vandal. He is blocked. He creates a sockpuppet. The sockpuppet does not do any vandal edits but instead accumulates a large number of good edits. A checkuser discovers he is a sockpuppet. Should he be blocked? --Chemicalinterest (talk) 17:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

If a user is making good edits, why would a checkuser investigate them? Also, if the sock has had time to accumulate a large amount of edits, any technical data that may have tied them to the original account may have expired. TNXMan 19:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
You might find Wikipedia:Standard offer interesting - fundamentally if a user comes back from a blocked account as a good editor then that's fine (ie to the extent that they are unrecognisable eg Comment on content, not on the contributor). The "standard offer" doesn't have to be made explicitly. However if the editor has a good-cop, bad-cop account thing going on that could be problematic - it depends if the editor has only one account and they are doing nothing wrong with it I would guess every sane person would let them get on with it.Sf5xeplus (talk) 21:56, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Compare to simple:WP:Simple talk#Good sockpuppets. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 01:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
It should be noted that WP:CLEANSTART covers the issue. If the user is a long term abuser of Wikipedia (Grawp on Wheels, if you will), then a clean start would likely not be accepted. However, if a user vandalized a few articles one day, got blocked, then started a new account and never vandalized again, it likely a) would never be noticed or b) if it was, would be considered a legitimate clean start. There are vandals, and there are VANDALS if you know what I mean, and we deal with them in very different ways. --Jayron32 04:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Irina Shayk

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.154.27 (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
It sounds like you are trying to write an article. Please find some standard advice below.

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation. TNXMan 19:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia already has an article on Irina Shayk (the page was created in February 2007). Haploidavey (talk) 23:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Authorization to copy the abstracts from a Journal. How should I manage this information.

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I received the authorization from the editor of the "Journal of Medical Biography" to copy (with a reference) the abstracts of his journal to WP:

  From: M Richardson
  To: User:Plindenbaum
  
  Thank you for your enquiry about reproducing Royal Society of Medicine
  Press Ltd copyright material from the Journal of Medical Biography in
  items for wikipedia.
  
  We are happy for you to reproduce abstracts from this journal, provided
  that a suitable form of acknowledgment is given linking them in each
  case to the source, together with the line, 'reproduced by permission of
  The Royal Society of Medicine Press Ltd'.
  
  Unfortunately we are unable to give permission for you to upload any
  pictures or fuller text content.
  
 I hope this answers your question.
  • if I get the same kind of authorization from some other academic journals, where should I store this information ?
  • if possible, is there a way to avoid the bots to flag the pages as copyvio ?

Thanks, --Plindenbaum (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Follow the procedure set out at WP:IOWN to send the permissions to OTRS. Once received and confirmed, the talk page(s) of the relevant article(s) will be tagged accordingly. Note, however, that permission to use only on Wikipedia is insufficient. There is no mechanism to "store" the material anywhere on Wikipedia. If you are merely citing the journal it must be verifiable, so use of a proper citation template, in this case {{Cite journal}} is recommended. – ukexpat (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!--Plindenbaum (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Where would you use such information? I can't think of any situation where you'd need to cut and paste the whole abstract of an article? --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
@Gameron, you're right, but sometimes an abstract can be a good source to start an article. e.g: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17153285 --Plindenbaum (talk) 21:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Image file won't revert

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I'm trying to revert the following image file File:DSC02747.JPG to it's original image, so I can split it, rename both versions, and move them to the commons, but every time I try to revert to the old version, it keeps going back to the new one, and I can't remove the errant revisions. Can somebody fix this problem? ----DanTD (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

On my computer, it's showing the older version rather than the newer version - I'm seeing the Phil-hong version of the image rather than the IRT.BMT.IND one (all 4 of your reverts seemed to have worked from what I can see!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunatley, none of them did. All the attempted reverts put the one by IRT.BMT.IND on top, and the three other times I tried to revert it, the one by Phil.hong came before that. ----DanTD (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE - Hmm. Suddenly it went back to the original. Something must've changed. ----DanTD (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Current fundraiser

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Hi. Where can I find documentation and statistics regarding this year's fundraiser? Cheers, Randomblue (talk) 23:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC).

Please see m:Fundraising 2010 and the many links off of that page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)