MyWiki:Bots/Requests for approval/Addbot 17

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Addbot Task 17

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Operator: ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!}

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Automatic

Programming Language(s): AWB

Function Overview: General fixes, Replaces tagging and what not (Expansion of previous AWB BRFA)

Edit period(s): Continuous

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Y

Function Details: Doing small tasks on articles from DB dumps using AWB:

• Removing Stub Tags on articles that are now larger than stubs
• Adding and dating maintanence tags where needed (Already have a brfa for this just not from DB Dumps)
• Applying other "General Fixes" Through AWB where appropriate (only when something else is being changed)
• Re-ordering sections such as references categorys and notes where needed.
• Unicodifying the article
• Correcting capitalisation in section headings

Discussion

Just a couple of quick questions:

• Will the bot simply be running through all articles, or only certain categories/sets where cleanup has been requested (not really important, more just curiosity)?
• Will the bot wait if {{inuse}} is on a page before adding cleanup tags? Richard⁰⁶¹² 13:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

One other question: what criteria do you use to decide whether to remove a stub tag? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The bot will be looking through selected cats, and lists from DB dumps. The "general cleanup / fixes" part will only save if something else is also being saved. If the page has an inuse template on it the bot will skip it. I think thats all you asked for :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Just curious, Isnt General fixes AWB Bot BFRAs denied earlier like this Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Archive_4#AWB_and_fixes, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Reedy Bot, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RefSpaceBot ?

Ofcourse, there have been instances of them being approved like Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TaeBot, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Madhubot ! Some other questions?

• Will "Skip if whitespace changes only" turned ON ?
• Will it change "1990's" (etc.) to "1990s" (etc.) when General fixes turned on? Isnt this change have to manually checked ? There are definitely instances in which "1990's" is the correct spelling. For example: "1989's most successful athlete was Bo Diddly, while 1990's most successful athlete was Richard Nixon."
• Will it fix spelling errors ? -- Tinu Cherian - 10:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The bot Will skip if only whitespace is changed, I will not fix spelling errors (due to the ammount of incorrect replaces it can make), The bot will still correct / try to correct dates as you pasted above. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

General fixes such as the date fixing mentioned above require manual oversight and aren't really appropriate for an automated bot. Richard⁰⁶¹² 20:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I would support this BRFA request, if AWB can make such changes (like date changes), which actually require manual oversight, optional. -- Tinu Cherian - 04:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I should be able to stop the date changes through a custom module in AWB. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

This ? Then it shouldnot be a problem -- Tinu Cherian - 11:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes :) Well something very very similar. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 11:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

AFAIK, every bot request to do automated AWB general fixes on articles has been denied.

• Removing Stub Tags on articles that are now larger than stubs

How does it define "larger than stubs"? bytecount? word count?

• Adding and dating maintanence tags where needed (Already have a brfa for this just not from DB Dumps)

Which maintenance tags will it add and using what criteria?

• Applying other "General Fixes" Through AWB where appropriate (only when something else is being changed)

These are generally not appropriate for an unsupervised bot.

• Correcting capitalisation in section headings

This is on the same level as spelling fixes, not really appropriate for a bot, unless it can tell whether a word is a proper noun or not.

Also, the most recent DB dump is 4 months old, I presume it will detect if changes need to be made by looking at the DB dump, but getting the current version to actually make the changes on? Mr.Z-man 20:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Withdrawn by operator. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 08:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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