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- 1 Proposals, May 2014
- 1.1 Two remaining continent subcats for Category:Poet stubs
- 1.2 Category:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania building and structure stubs
- 1.3 Split of Category:Romantic drama film stubs
- 1.4 Category:American film biography stubs split
- 1.5 Category:Mississippi school stubs
- 1.6 Category:Minnesota university stubs
- 1.7 Category:New York university stubs
- 1.8 Category:Baseball venue stubs
- 1.9 Category:New Jersey sports venue stubs
Proposals, May 2014
Two remaining continent subcats for Category:Poet stubs
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Category:Poet stubs is mostly divided by continent- except for North America and Oceania, which don't have their own cateogries. Since each of these continents has at least 1 viable subcat, I think we should create these 2 categories - Category:North American poet stubs and Category:Oceanian poet stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:12, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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I noticed that Category:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania stubs is oversized. I think that we could help deal with that using Category:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania building and structure stubs/{{Pittsburgh-struct-stub}} - even if we were to look at the intersectionb of the two parent stub cats, we get 63 stubs, plenty for a category; and we would be likely to have many more, including most of the other 33 here from Category:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania stubs, and others - even possibly a total of more than 200. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Split of Category:Romantic drama film stubs
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The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
Propose the following tags to add year of release and reduce double-tagging of film articles:
{{1900s-romantic-drama-film-stub}}-- No parent category- {{1910s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 38 P)
{{1920s-romantic-drama-film-stub}}-- Already present{{1930s-romantic-drama-film-stub}}-- Already present- {{1940s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 32 P)
- {{1950s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 19 P)
- {{1960s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 16 P)
- {{1970s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 17 P)
- {{1980s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 30 P)
- {{1990s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 53 P)
{{2000s-romantic-drama-film-stub}}-- Already present- {{2010s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} (Catscan: ~ 14 P)
Dawynn (talk) 13:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. An examination of all the articles in Category:Romantic drama film stubs shows that not all of these templates are necessary. Yes, sometimes stub categories need to be broken down by decade because of size, and the 1910s and 1990s templates might have enough articles to warrant their own categories. But per WP:STUB, it is unnecessary to create a stub tag to indicate decade of release if 1) there aren't enough articles using it to meet the threshold for a stub category, and 2) all the articles involved already have a genre stub tag that is sufficient to cover the subject's main notability. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I ran some quick catscans with results posted above. I only looked at movies from the specific parent categories. As noted above, the romantic drama category is obviously undersorted. Dawynn (talk) 15:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I still can't advocate creating stub templates to break down this category by decade, unless there are enough articles for those templates to have their own categories. Adding {{1960s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} to only 16 articles, would not serve any purpose that {{romantic-drama-film-stub}} doesn't already serve. Fortdj33 (talk) 15:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- Granted -- this would fall under instruction 7 above. These would be upmerged , exploratory templates, upmerging to both Category:Romantic drama film stubs and the appropriate decade category (e.g. Category:1990s film stubs) while we get a better idea of whether we can find the appropriate numbers for a full category. Meanwhile, it would help any editors who have expertise of a particular decade of film to find these articles, rather than assuming that all movie viewers have equal interest in all of cinema history. Finally, this would help to succinctly tag articles with a single tag indicating both year of release and genre for these films. Dawynn (talk) 16:40, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- There may be specific projects for film genres and films from certain countries, but it is naive to believe that there are editors "who have expertise of a particular decade" for films. The only reason to break down a film category by decade, is because it is too large and needs to be divided into sub-categories. That is not the case here, so most of these templates are unnecessary, because they will all still feed into the same category. Fortdj33 (talk) 17:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I will grant that "expertise" was a poor choose of words. But I would guess that users are probably more familiar with particular decades rather than all of cinema history. For myself, I have only rarely watched films older than about 1980. I would be more familiar with films in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, and thus more inclined to edit those films rather than all films from any given time period, just because they fit a certain genre. I see a benefit in sorting by genre, but I don't understand the reluctance to sort by decade when it can be so beneficial toward helping users find film articles they want to edit. Dawynn (talk) 12:02, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Granted -- this would fall under instruction 7 above. These would be upmerged , exploratory templates, upmerging to both Category:Romantic drama film stubs and the appropriate decade category (e.g. Category:1990s film stubs) while we get a better idea of whether we can find the appropriate numbers for a full category. Meanwhile, it would help any editors who have expertise of a particular decade of film to find these articles, rather than assuming that all movie viewers have equal interest in all of cinema history. Finally, this would help to succinctly tag articles with a single tag indicating both year of release and genre for these films. Dawynn (talk) 16:40, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I still can't advocate creating stub templates to break down this category by decade, unless there are enough articles for those templates to have their own categories. Adding {{1960s-romantic-drama-film-stub}} to only 16 articles, would not serve any purpose that {{romantic-drama-film-stub}} doesn't already serve. Fortdj33 (talk) 15:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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Created at Category:American audio engineer stubs Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 23:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
To reduce the unsorted stubs in this category, I propose Category:American audio engineers stubs to be made as a subcategory. Currently there are 200+ audio engineer stubs. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. The stub tag {{US-audio-engineer-stub}} has been created. Current count shows about 286 articles would qualify [1]. Fortdj33 (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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I propose creating Category:Mississippi school stubs - We have a total of 65 {{Mississippi-school-stub}}s and {{Mississippi-university-stub}}s, enough for a category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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I propose creating Category:Minnesota university stubs - its stub tag ({{Minnesota-university-stub}}), together with Category:University of Minnesota stubs ({{UMinnesota-stub}}) have a total of 60 stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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I propose creating Category:New York university stubs - {{NewYork-university-stub}} now has 64 transclusions. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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I propose Category:Baseball venue stubs/{{baseball-venue-stub}} - along with Category:American baseball venue stubs/{{US-baseball-venue-stub}} (488 stubs) and categories for the regions of the US (as defined for its parent category, Category:United States sports venue stubs; its grandparent category, Category:United States building and structure stubs; and several of its uncle categories) and tags (and categories where more than 60) for the states and DC. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:37, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Since {{NewJersey-sports-venue-stub}} now has 60 transclusions, I propose creating Category:New Jersey sports venue stubs for it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:45, 4 May 2014 (UTC)