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==Proposals, October 2019==

===Regional religion stubs===
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I propose adding a few regional categories/templates for religion stubs. Ideally, there would be more but the list below will do for now. These would also help to organize religious bio stubs and buildings in their respective categories.

*[[:Category:China religion stubs]], which would encompass [[:Category:Chinese religious biography stubs‎]] (105 P) and [[:Category:Chinese Roman Catholic diocese stubs‎]] (90 P).

I haven't gone through every Korean and Vietnam-related article to check for content, but based on my work in [[:Category:Buddhism stubs]], there seems to be a decent variety of material covered.
*[[:Category:Korea religion stubs]] (69+)
*[[:Category:Vietnam religion stubs]] (20+)

I'd estimate at least half of the articles on [[:Category:Buddhist biography stubs]], which makes approx. 132, for the final stub:
*[[:Category:Buddhist clergy stubs]]

Finally, I'd like to create the categories [[:Category:Japanese religious biography stubs]], [[:Category:Korean religious biography stubs]], and [[:Category:Vietnamese religious biography stubs]], with priority given to Japan.
--[[User:Invokingvajras|Invokingvajras]][[User talk:Invokingvajras|talk]] 3:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
:*Can we refine the reli- stubs further within each belief system, rather than geographically? '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 03:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
::*Can you provide an example of how you mean?--[[User:Invokingvajras|Invokingvajras]][[User talk:Invokingvajras|talk]] 3:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
:::*My main question is whether, for example, "China/Korea/Vietnam religion stubs" would encompass articles that have to do with any religion in the geographic area known as China/Korea/Vietnam, or whether they'd only include articles pertaining to belief systems indigenous to that area. Maybe I'm picking nits - as geographic regions change, would that mean re-scoping the stub categories? Please tell me if I'm not making sense. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 18:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
::::*Both. They would function the same way as general categories, so traditions that are exclusive to those cultures or diasporic groups tend to simply fall under their parent categories. Ideally, we would have something like [[:Category:Japan religion stubs]] > [[:Category:Japanese Christianity stubs]], [[:Category:Japanese Buddhism stubs]], [[:Category:Shinto stubs]], etc. [[:Category:Japanese religious building and structure stubs‎]] > [[:Category:Japanese church stubs]], [[:Category:Japanese Buddhist temple stubs]], etc. While I'd like to see this broad a scope, there may not be enough articles to satisfy the demand for these categories. Geographic change should be of little concern here.
:::::That said, I realize that there are many more categories under [[:Category:Religious building and structure stubs]] that deal with region/culture. [[:Category:Canadian religion stubs]] and the like would also prove useful if only for tidying up the tree. --[[User:Invokingvajras|Invokingvajras]][[User talk:Invokingvajras|talk]] 6:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
::::::In that case, '''support'''. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 19:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
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===West Bengal geography stubs===
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I propose creation of upmerged templates for each of the [[List_of_districts_of_West_Bengal#Alphabetical_listing_of_West_Bengal_Districts|23 districts of West Bengal]]; the parent cat contains 883 articles. I'll propose categories once the templates are in place and I can do a better count. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 21:42, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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===mobile-tech-stub===
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We currently have these categories:
*{{c|Mobile technology stubs}}
**{{c|Mobile computer stubs‎}}
**{{c|Samsung phone stubs‎}}
**{{c|Mobile software stubs}}‎
***{{c|Mobile game stubs}}

I suspect that it would be worth splitting the parent to [[:Category:Mobile phone stubs]], to hold the Samsung sub-cat and lots of pages beginning with HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Nokia, Xiaomi etc. However, I'm not sure how many non-phone articles would be left.

{{c|Mobile technology stubs}} is currently populated by {{tl|mobile-stub}}. I would propose to keep that and use it for [[:Category:Mobile phone stubs]], if created. I therefore suggest creating a separate template for now, {{tl|mobile-tech-stub}}, and using that on non-phone pages in {{c|Mobile technology stubs}}. It would also be appropriate for some such as [[Samsung Galaxy Camera 2]] that are currently in {{c|Mobile computer stubs‎}} mainly because the parent only has one template {{tl|mobile-stub}} whose text "mobile phone–related" does not fit. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''L'''ondon]] 15:08, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:Would {{cl|Samsung phone stubs}} be a sub-cat of {{cl|Mobile phone stubs}}? '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 20:39, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
::Yes – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''L'''ondon]] 23:43, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
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===silent-film-stub===
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{{tl|silent-film-stub}} already in use by many of the old films, some are narrowed down to child cats and some aren't. Do with it what you will. [[User:Ched|— Ched]] ([[User talk:Ched|talk]]) 19:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
: '''Note:''' Oh, and it's not listed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types]] or [[:Category:Film_stubs_by_genre|Film stubs by genre]] [[User:Ched|— Ched]] ([[User talk:Ched|talk]]) 19:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Ched}} Why have you posted this here? What is it that you wish to propose? --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
:::{{rto|Redrose64}} - To be honest, I'm not sure Redrose. I was adding some stubs to articles, and couldn't find the {{tl|silent-film-stub}} listed anywhere, but I noticed it was being used on a lot of the 1920 - 1927 old films. It seems to me that it should be listed ''some''where. I thought at first I'd just add it to the "Film stubs by genre" cat - but to edit the page, I get:

:<nowiki>{{WPSS-cat}}</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{Parent-only stub category</nowiki>
:<nowiki>|article=[[Film]]|newstub=|category=Films by genre}}</nowiki>
:<nowiki>[[Category:Film stubs| Film stubs by genre]]
</nowiki>
and I just wasn't sure what to do. Soooo - I did this 'request' things, and figured I'd watch and learn if someone came by and did something. Even more confusing (to me) is that it breaks down ever further to things like {{tl|1920s-silent-drama-film-stub}}. I didn't think we should just make stuff up as we went along - so I did this. Any info would be appreciated. (just leave everything the way it is?) [[User:Ched|— Ched]] ([[User talk:Ched|talk]]) 20:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
: Ahhh - I walked away and came back, then realized I hadn't checked the '''Category''':Film stubs pages. You can delete this if you want. If you don't then I will tomorrow. Although I'm still a bit confused by: <nowiki>[[Category:Film stubs| Film stubs by genre]]</nowiki> since they seem to be 2 ''different'' pages. Ugh - topic is way over-bloated IMO. [[User:Ched|— Ched]] ([[User talk:Ched|talk]]) 23:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
::A few points:
::* The line you quoted simply means that [[:Category:Film stubs by genre]] is placed in the parent category {{cl|Film stubs}}, sorted by the term " Film stubs by genre" with a space before its name. It's just to list similar subcategories within {{cl|Film stubs}} together.
::* Since the article on [[silent film]] is categorised in {{cl|Film genres}}, perhaps [[:Category:Silent film stubs]] should be a subcategory of {{cl|Film stubs by genre}} rather than {{cl|Film stubs}} as well. Thoughts?
::* The initial post does bring up another issue in that [[:Category:Silent film stubs]] has over 1700 pages in it. It's already got a few subcats on its own, but there's certainly room for more. For starters, I propose creating {{cl|1920s silent film stubs}} / {{tl|1920s-silent-film-stub}}. [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?sitelinks_no=&project=wikipedia&edits%5Bflagged%5D=both&cb_labels_no_l=1&interface_language=en&categories=1920s%20films%0ASilent%20film%20stubs%7C0&edits%5Bbots%5D=both&negcats=1920s%20film%20stubs%0A1920s%20silent%20comedy%20film%20stubs%E2%80%8E%0A1920s%20silent%20drama%20film%20stubs%E2%80%8E%0A1920s%20silent%20Western%20(genre)%20film%20stubs%E2%80%8E&language=en&depth=10&edits%5Banons%5D=both&sortby=title&cb_labels_yes_l=1&templates_yes=asbox&search_max_results=500&cb_labels_any_l=1&&doit= Petscan] shows over 1000 potential articles that aren't already in [[:Category:1920s film stubs]] or its subcats relating to silent films (which can also be subcats of the proposed category). Both the current and new categories would still be quite large, but it does make further subcategorisation a bit easier.
::Cheers. – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 01:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

I found:
* {{tl|1920s-US-film-stub}} ''as a template - singular stub''
* {{cl|1920s British film stubs}} ''as a category - plural stubs''
* not sure of the "silent" part - but I'd bet there's some versions out there in some form, especially when you throw in the genre (western, drama, comedy, etc.)
sigh - my problem is these things are scattered all over the place; some as templates, some as categories. "Stubs" really could be better organized, but at this point it's probably way too expansive to do much. Apologies for my initial post, I was just a bit overwhelmed at first, but thank you both for the replies. [[User:Ched|— Ched]] ([[User talk:Ched|talk]]) 10:28, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
:The naming convention is that categories are always spaced and end with " stubs"; whereas templates are hyphenated and end with "-stub". They usually go as pairs, and stub categories are never used directly: if an article belongs in, say, {{cl|Film stubs}}, you should use the associated template, which is {{tlx|film-stub}}; similarly, to put an article in {{cl|1920s British film stubs}}, you should use {{tlx|1920s-UK-film-stub}}.
:If the intent of this thread was to bring attention to a stub template which was created [[WP:WSS/P|out-of-process]], the place to post is at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting]]. --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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