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==Proposals, August 2019==

===A clarification?===
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Hi folks - not a proposal so much as a clarification needed. I see we have two templates: {{tl|NativeAmerican-politician-stub}} and {{tl|NorthAm-native-bio-stub}}... surely one of these should be moved so that the naming is consistent. If so, which way? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]'' 14:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
*I'd retain "NorthAm-native-foo-stub" and move the other one to {{tl|NorthAm-native-politician-stub}}. While "[[Native American]]" sounds better to me, it can also describe indigenous peoples all over North, Central and South America. The aforementioned stub templates both link to {{cl|Indigenous peoples of North America biography stubs}}: anything to do with North American indigenous peoples should probably specify "North America" in its title. There's also {{tl|NorthAm-native-stub}} and {{tl|NorthAm-native-book-stub}} – but confusingly, also {{tl|IndigenousAustralia-stub}} (although the [[:Category:Indigenous peoples of Australia stubs|category name]] is consistent with the NorthAm one). Cheers. – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 13:31, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
**Makes sense - perhaps redirects at the other names? I too prefer the term Native American, but you're right that it could have a mor ambiguous scope. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]'' 14:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
***Sounds good. Template redirects are harmless, and they save having to change the stub tags on any of the articles. Thankfully they're upmerged templates, so there's no need to change the categories as well ... at least not yet. – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 02:07, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
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===Eurovision song stubs===
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There are 500+ articles in {{cl|Eurovision Song Contest stubs}} (granted, I've added a lot in the past few days, but there are probably a lot more not catted here I'd guess). This would likely make up the bulk of the category but it's the kind of thing where the logical next step is upmerges/subcats by country easily. [[User:Gnomingstuff|Gnomingstuff]] ([[User talk:Gnomingstuff|talk]]) 15:34, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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===Buddhism stubs===
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There are 500+ articles at {{cl|Buddhism stubs}}. I haven't checked subcategories, but it is evident that many, if not most, of the articles there would also fall under the stubs that I would like to propose. This sort of split would make categorization much easier and make the project less daunting for other users.
* {{tl|Theravada-stub}}: 41+ articles
* {{tl|Mahayana-stub}}: 57+ articles
* {{tl|Tibetan-Buddhism-stub}}: 64+ articles
* {{tl|Buddhist-text-stub}}: 71+ articles
* {{tl|Buddhist-myth-stub}}: 29+ articles. An upmerge between {{tl|Buddhism-stub}} and {{tl|Asia-myth-stub}} would suffice here.
--[[User:Invokingvajras|Invokingvajras]] ([[User talk:Invokingvajras|talk]]) 22:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
:*'''Support''' templates & cats for {{tl|Tibetan-Buddhism-stub}} and {{tl|Buddhist-text-stub}}; support upmerged templates for the rest, for now. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 17:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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===American Anglican bishop stubs===
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There are 600+ articles at {{cl|Anglican bishop stubs}}; I've been sorting them and think I can get to enough American bios from the stragglers, plus probably stuff in the various American religious biography stubs. [[User:Gnomingstuff|Gnomingstuff]] ([[User talk:Gnomingstuff|talk]]) 17:19, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 19:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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===Māori stubs===
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There are currently 405 articles at {{cl|Māori stubs}}, and I propose the following split:
* {{tl|Māori-bio-stub}}: manual count 164 articles (excluding mythological people). Not sure how to further split these yet.
* {{tl|Maori-myth-stub}}: presently upmerged, but PetScan shows [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=2&categories=M%C4%81ori%20mythology%0D%0AM%C4%81ori%20stubs&templates_yes=asbox&search_max_results=500&sortby=title&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit= 84 articles] including those without the stub template. Will also respell as "Māori-myth-stub".
Cheers. – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 15:35, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
**'''Support''' {{cl|Māori mythology stubs}} and {{tl|Māori-bio-stub}} / {{cl|Māori people stubs}}, with redirects from ''Maori'' in each case. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|really?]])'' 19:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
::*'''Comment:''' Well, these are all done, and with a lot more articles in each than I initially expected. '''Question:''' I was wondering about the Māori-bio-stubs category, which is {{cl|Māori people stubs}}. It's supposed to contain articles on individual Māori people, but others might mistake it as a category for everything about the [[Māori people]] – including their culture, history, language, subgroups, etc. – which would actually belong in the parent {{cl|Māori stubs}}. Perhaps it might be better to move the bio-stubs category to {{cl|Māori biography stubs}} instead? It'd be less confusing and still consistent with a lot of the subcats in {{cl|New Zealand people stubs}}. Thoughts? – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 14:45, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
*I've commented on that at the speedy proposal... but if you're trying to figure out how best to split Maori bios when it becomes necessary, there are several large [[iwi]] (tribes) and iwi groups such as [[Ngapuhi]], [[Tainui]], [[Muriwhenua]], and [[Ngai Tahu]] - it might be worth looking at splitting along those lines. Only problem is that many Maori identify with more than one iwi. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]'' 14:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
**Another possible split would be by century. I realise that there would be an overlap, but - because of the colonisation of NZ in the 19th century, there's a profound change in Maori history at that point. Perhaps Pre-1800/19th Century/20th Century/21st Century?[[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]'' 14:29, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
*I've listed {{cl|Māori people stubs}} at CfD, for renaming to {{cl|Māori biography stubs}}. Please feel free to add your thoughts [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 September 1#Category:Māori people stubs|at the CfD entry here]]. Cheers again. – [[User:Liveste|Liveste]] ([[User talk:Liveste|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liveste|edits]]) 13:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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