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== 01:41:14, 5 August 2016 review of submission by Yhone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Yhone|Yhone]] ([[User talk:Yhone|talk]]) 01:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The page was [[User:Yhone/Importance of reaction paper]].  It was blank.  You may have submitted it to AFC for review before entering the intended article content.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 12:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 06:42:39, 5 August 2016 review of submission by Usseryroad ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Lafc|username=Usseryroad|ts=06:42:39, 5 August 2016|declined=Draft:ScholarshipOwl}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This article was reviewed by SwisterTwister, who seems to be a prolific and senior reviewer. I really respect the reviewer&amp;#039;s point of view! The article was rejected on the grounds of notability because the company in question is too young. However, why can&amp;#039;t a young company be notable if it has been mentioned many times in the news? It&amp;#039;s true that in most cases young companies risk closing down, but so can older companies. In addition, I have seen plenty of companies, which are younger than ScholarshipOwl get featured. Case in point - GoodCall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoodCall. ScholarshipOwl had plenty of media mentions including ABC Televised interview and TechCrunch article. I would appreciate if you could please give a second look. I contacted SwisterTwister over a month ago on their talkpage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SwisterTwister and didn&amp;#039;t receive a reply. Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;
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:{{ping|Usseryroad}} The draft has been reviewed by five experienced editors. Notability has been found wanting four times, and it has been declined once for reading like an advertisement. You want a second look? Here&amp;#039;s a sixth. Notability does not derive from marketing. Being mentioned is not enough. References used to demonstrate notability must be reliable, arms-length, secondary sources. There need to be multiple sources, and they need to provide a significant depth of coverage.&lt;br /&gt;
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:* Five of the nine cited sources (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Next Web&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;HelloGiggles&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;VatorNews&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;L.A. Biz&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;TechZulu&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) were published on the same date (2015-07-22) and have strikingly similar structure, content, and tone. They appear to be regurgitating a press release, which makes them not independent.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Three quarters of the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;ABC11&amp;#039;&amp;#039; piece is direct quotes from, or paraphrases of, the company&amp;#039;s media contact. The reporter provides no analysis, so the piece is essentially the company described in the company&amp;#039;s words. It is not independent.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Ross is a guest commentator on a blog (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;TechCrunch&amp;#039;&amp;#039;). As such, he&amp;#039;s a reliable source for his opinion, but not for  statements of fact or for notability. It&amp;#039;s also a mere passing mention.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Gigaom.com&amp;#039;&amp;#039; does not exhibit any of the characteristics of a reliable source. See also [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 126#Blogs count towards notability?]].&lt;br /&gt;
:* Loeb (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;VatorNews&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) describes himself as a an &amp;quot;online media professional&amp;quot; and his position as &amp;quot;journalist&amp;quot;, but has no journalism background (longest prior job was as research assistant/associate producer for a post-production company) or credentials (degree in film production/English). There is no evidence of editorial oversight. See also [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 35#Vator.tv]].&lt;br /&gt;
:* Student newspapers, such as the University of South Florida&amp;#039;s &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Oracle&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, are not usually regarded as reliable sources. The footer of the piece (&amp;quot;For additional information ...&amp;quot; followed by full contact details for the company, an about the company paragraph, and media contact info) are telltale signs of a press release, which makes the piece not independent.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;TechZulu&amp;#039;&amp;#039; does not exhibit any of the characteristics of a reliable source.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In summary, the cited sources are junk. As for your &amp;quot;[[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]&amp;quot; argument, [[GoodCall]] has been deleted, as this would be if it were in article space. It may be unrealistic of you to expect a company barely a year old to have had the significant and demonstrable effects that would justify its inclusion in Wikipedia. A young company can be notable, but &amp;#039;&amp;#039;very&amp;#039;&amp;#039; few are, and this isn&amp;#039;t one of them. Based on these sources the subject does not appear to be a suitable topic for an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not for advertising, marketing, or public relations. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 17:24, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 08:19:59, 5 August 2016 review of submission by Tpetpe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have created a draft article, in which i have made a mistake in the title.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:S%C3%B8ren_S%C3%B8rensen_(Microbioligist)&lt;br /&gt;
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As can be seen the title is &amp;quot;Søren Sørensen (Microbioligist)&amp;quot; and should be &amp;quot;Søren Sørensen (Microbiologist)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to correct this but cannot find a means of doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there an easy way of ding so or is it necessary to make a new article?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yours with thanks&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Tpetpe|Tpetpe]] ([[User talk:Tpetpe|talk]]) 08:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi [[User:Tpetpe|Tpetpe]], I fixed it, the draft is now at [[Draft:Søren Sørensen (microbiologist)]], the disambiguator is supposed to be in lower case (unless it&amp;#039;s a proper noun of course). [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 09:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request on 09:32:08, 5 August 2016 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Lauren advantech ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|09:32:08, 5 August 2016 review of submission by Lauren advantech}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Lafc|username=Lauren advantech|ts=09:32:08, 5 August 2016|declinedtalk=Draft:Advantech}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I need help to make a page explaining about the company Advantech. I do not want to &amp;#039;advertise&amp;#039; or post anything incorrectly, but it seems that&amp;#039;s how its being viewed. I just want to share who the company is. If we could add information from articles published about the company that would be a nice bonus. As Advantech is an International  Company and World leader in IPC and industrial hardware and embedded products, it should have a page on Wikipedia. Just to explain who they are and maybe their history? &lt;br /&gt;
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What information can I share with you to help me get started on making a page?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- End of message --&amp;gt;[[User:Lauren advantech|Lauren advantech]] ([[User talk:Lauren advantech|talk]]) 09:32, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::First, your draft may not be taken directly from the company&amp;#039;s own web site.  It was deleted for copyright violation.  Second, you must declare your association with the company.  See [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and [[WP:Paid|paid editing]].  Third, the language must be neutral, because otherwise what you view as &amp;quot;explaining about&amp;quot; the company will be seen as advertising.  Fourth, you must show that the company is [[WP:CORP|notable]] in terms of substantial third-party in-depth coverage.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 12:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 22:36:17, 5 August 2016 review of submission by Hidden-noise ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Submission “Yamaguchi Katsuhiro” has been declined on 5 August 2016 by MatthewVanitas because of WP:Notability (artists).&lt;br /&gt;
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I can read no that page that&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Notable art is:&lt;br /&gt;
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    a) A piece that has been purchased or displayed by notable expositions (e.g. Documenta, Tate, MOMA, Guggenheim Museum).&lt;br /&gt;
    b) A piece acquired by government (national, state or major city) and put on public display (e.g. Zygmunt&amp;#039;s Column or Washington Monument) - but excluding vanity images/sculpture of living politicians.&lt;br /&gt;
    c) A piece that has been selected as the winner of a notable award (Abd-el-Tif prize, Marcel Duchamp Prize, Carnegie Prize see Category:Art awards).&lt;br /&gt;
    d) A piece sold at record value for its field to a purchaser independent from the artist, or that achieved the highest price for a given year if the purchaser is independent of the artist/agent/gallerist.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yamaguchi’s works have been&lt;br /&gt;
a) purchased or displayed by notable expositions&lt;br /&gt;
b) acquired by government &lt;br /&gt;
c) selected as the winner of a notable award&lt;br /&gt;
d) sold at record value for its field to a purchaser independent from the artist&lt;br /&gt;
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So what is the problem ???&lt;br /&gt;
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:The draft has no references.  References to [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] are needed to establish notability.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 00:40, 6 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Indeed, {{u|Hidden-noise}} when an article has no references at all there isn&amp;#039;t even proof that the subject exists! You need to add references that prove all of the notability claims you&amp;#039;ve stated. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 05:23, 6 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And by references we mean in-line references, documenting the sourcing for the various claims made in the article, not just a bibliography dump at the bottom of the page. --[[User:Orangemike|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F80&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Orange Mike&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FA0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:20, 6 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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