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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paul &amp;quot;Fat Daddy&amp;quot; Johnson]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How do I submit my submission for reeview?  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LATownes|LATownes]] ([[User talk:LATownes|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LATownes|contribs]]) 13:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Add {{tlsc|submit}} to the very top of the page, including the curly brackets. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 01:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Prince Michael of Ashanti Region]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
I made a page about a prince who isn&amp;#039;t really known like prince William is. I also talked about is family, they aren&amp;#039;t really seen though. I want to know why the article of Prince Michael of the Ashanti Region had gotten declined.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LS1999|LS1999]] ([[User talk:LS1999|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LS1999|contribs]]) 18:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your draft didn&amp;#039;t cite any [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], and right now we cannot tell whether that&amp;#039;s an article on a genuine prince or a hoax. Especially for [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]] we require such sources. See also [[WP:BIO]]: Even if Michael were a prince that alone doesn&amp;#039;t mean he&amp;#039;s notable enough to be the subject of an article. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 01:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harold &amp;amp;#34;Hal&amp;amp;#34; Willard Bradley Sr]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sir,&lt;br /&gt;
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Referring to: &lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Harold_%22Hal%22_Willard_Bradley_Sr&lt;br /&gt;
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Your comment:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;This submission&amp;#039;s references do not adequately evidence the subject&amp;#039;s notability&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;famous&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most people of history are, today, neither famous or popular. Encyclopedias are filled with this. &amp;quot;People Magazine&amp;quot; is filled with famous and popular people. Encyclopedias remind us of people forgotten.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reliable and independent sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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Biographical links (independent) as well as those from the Football Hall (notable) prove the notability.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Notability&amp;quot; = to take note, notice, make an impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;d like to understand YOUR meaning of &amp;quot;notable&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;reliable&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;independent&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps you are not well aware of American football - the way it is shaped today.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 2nd black linesman in history, at a time, when blacks were being excluded from American Football, was one of the few that lead American Football today, to what it is. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your time:&lt;br /&gt;
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Oliver Bradley [[User:Oqbradley|Oqbradley]] ([[User talk:Oqbradley|talk]]) 22:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Facts do not make notability. Statistics (such as 2nd black linesman) do not make notability. Notability is defined as [[WP:42|having significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject]]. Reliable is defined as [[WP:IRS|sources with editorial oversight, that have a reputation for fact checking]]. Independent is defined as having no ties to the subject, i.e. not interviews, not press releases, not articles that are paid for/commissioned, and not articles by anyone (sponsors) affiliated with the subject. Before you ask, significant coverage is defined as coverage that is more than just a mention of their name - at least a good chunk (more than a paragraph or two) about the person - in depth coverage of the subject. ~[[User:Charmlet|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:maroon;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charmlet&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Charmlet|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-talk-&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I resubmitted the article, [[Harold Bradley Sr.]], re-written to emphasize his notability.  Please note that the fact that he was the second black lineman in NFL history, a black football pioneer, etc., is all just icing on the cake, as it were.  Per [[Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#American_football.2FCanadian_football|WP:NGRIDIRON]], any American football player who appeared in at least one NFL game is presumed to be notable.  Harold Bradley Sr. played for the Chicago Cardinals in 1928; he is, therefore, presumed to be notable as an NFL alumnus unless a case is made to the contrary.  Again, the article was re-written to highlight this fact.  With respect, [[User:Rozehawk|Rozehawk]] ([[User talk:Rozehawk|talk]]) 17:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Works for me, I can&amp;#039;t argue with the notability guidelines - I must have never seen that before. ~[[User:Charmlet|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:maroon;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charmlet&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Charmlet|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-talk-&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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