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== mtg01 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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my page is getting deleated. i dont know why  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Supergamer5999|Supergamer5999]] ([[User talk:Supergamer5999|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Supergamer5999|contribs]]) 01:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your page was deleted because it didn&amp;#039;t cite any [[WP:RS|reliable]] third-party sources to establish that this YouTube show is [[WP:WEB|notable]] enough for an article. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 02:44, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese copyright question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
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I have recently created and had accepted an article on the Isuzu Hillman Minx, a car made in Japan during the 1950s/60s. At the moment the article is mainly text except for one image that is in Wikimedia Commons.  I would like to make it more interesting by using 2 or 3 images that I have scanned from factory brochures of the period, but I don&amp;#039;t want to infringe copyright.  The brochures were published in Japan in 1960 and 1962. From my reading of the Wikipedia article on Japanese copyright it seems that copyright expires after 50 years - which suggests it would be OK to upload the images. &lt;br /&gt;
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Any advice would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kind Regards, Vic Hughes  &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Lemansvk|Lemansvk]] ([[User talk:Lemansvk|talk]]) 01:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&amp;#039;m not a copyright expert, but those brochures probably are still copyrighted under US copyright law, which has longer expiration periods than Japanese copyright law. Compare [[Wikipedia:Non-U.S. copyrights]]. Wikipedia itself is governed by US copyright law. The Commons require images to be free under &amp;#039;&amp;#039;both&amp;#039;&amp;#039; US and Japanese copyright law. So while you may want to ask someone more expert than me, I don&amp;#039;t think those images would be considered free content. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 02:44, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bernadette Pajer]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My original user name was blocked and I could not edit it so I created a new account and resubmitted the article here with the new user name, Jelafi17. The article was for Bernadette Pajer&lt;br /&gt;
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Hopefully this has the right references but I can&amp;#039;t see it. [[User:Jelafi17|Jelafi17]] ([[User talk:Jelafi17|talk]]) 06:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bernadette Pajer]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question. Can you please make sure the article does not appear twice? I am new to this &amp;amp; did not realize the article would link up again with the original when I created a brand new account. [[User:Jelafi17|Jelafi17]] ([[User talk:Jelafi17|talk]]) 06:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good morning. You should be able to fix this problem by clicking Edit at the top of the page and removing whichever version of the submission is not needed. I don&amp;#039;t think it&amp;#039;s anything to do with creating a new account. You may wish to read [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners]] to help you in fixing the reference layout in your submission. [[User:Arthur goes shopping|Arthur goes shopping]] ([[User talk:Arthur goes shopping|talk]]) 08:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== help ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi I have been told that it is copy right and I cannot post this information I have permission and am the chair of the Association of Lipspeakers please help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dilys Palin  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dilysp|Dilysp]] ([[User talk:Dilysp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dilysp|contribs]]) 09:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Permission for you to use the content is not enough; Wikipedia content must be freely licensed so everybody can re-use and modify it for any purpose, including commercial purposes. If the Association is willing to release its content under such a license, namely the [[Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|CC-BY-SA 3.0 License]], you can send a confirmation email ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries|example declaration of consent]]) to {{mono|permissions-en@wikimedia.org}}. However, all Wikipedia content should be based on [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are [[WP:Independent sources|independent]] of the subject, such as articles in newspapers or reputable magazines. The Association&amp;#039;s own website is not such an independent source. Thus it may be easier to rewrite the article from scratch based on third-party sources than to bother with licensing. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 14:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Clicktopurchase]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Clicktopurchase article was declined for submission due to the references.&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you mind please telling me which references were not secondary reliable sources entirely independent of the subject? Is it the interviewss? A number of the references are from Property Week (I gather this is the &amp;quot;80% of the citations are from a single trade journal&amp;quot;), which is a reliable, independent news source and very well-known in the commercial property industry. Is there something wrong with using it as a reference? Please do let me know which are problematic so I can edit these and re-submit, as I have been as objective as possible with reference to both good and bad press.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Neil Singer|Neil Singer]] ([[User talk:Neil Singer|talk]]) 15:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I added a couple of potential sources to the bottom of the references. I see you already had one of them, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[The Independent]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. The other two are from &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Building Design]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and a very brief article in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[The Jewish Chronicle]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. I&amp;#039;ll not be the one to be reviewing this article, but the lack of a significant amount of mainstream press coverage is still potentially quite a problem. It&amp;#039;s not that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Property Week]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; isn&amp;#039;t reliable, just that it is highly specialised and trade oriented and it&amp;#039;s pretty obvious many of the articles in it are press-release based, as they are in many of these kinds of publications. [[WP:Notability (organizations and companies)]] has more. Given that Neil Singer is the owner of this company, I assume you&amp;#039;ve also read [[WP:Conflict of interest]]. If not, please do and perhaps ask yourself to what extent having this article enhances the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;encyclopedia&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and benefits its readers  as opposed to benefitting the Singer Vielle company. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 16:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AposTherapy]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi There I recently tried to post on AposTherapy, It says that it was declined due to using primary sources. I don&amp;#039;t know what else to use as they are respected medical Journals, I don&amp;#039;t think you can get any better resources? &lt;br /&gt;
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Can you give any advice on how I can change it so it can be approved? &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
Jamie  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Wikieditmontrose|Wikieditmontrose]] ([[User talk:Wikieditmontrose|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wikieditmontrose|contribs]]) 16:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:They are indeed good high quality sources, the reviewer was mistaken. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 16:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Albatrosses]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Root components&lt;br /&gt;
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The root has many layers that it consists of such as:&lt;br /&gt;
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1-Epidermis layer (the external layer)&lt;br /&gt;
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2- Cortex layer (follows the epidermis)&lt;br /&gt;
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3- Endodermis layer (last layer of cortex)&lt;br /&gt;
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4- Xylem layer (follows the cortex)&lt;br /&gt;
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5- Pith layer (the last layer)  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Meno nana|Meno nana]] ([[User talk:Meno nana|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Meno nana|contribs]]) 19:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:That seems to be about [[root]]s, not about [[albatross]]es. How may we help you? On an unrelated note, I&amp;#039;d be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;very&amp;#039;&amp;#039; careful about publishing private details on the internet. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I now have an idea in my mind for a complicated science fiction novel in which albatrosses, instead of living by eating fish from the sea, enter a symbiotic relationship with some sort of plant, whereby the albatross acts as the plant&amp;#039;s root system. The large number of feathers, spread across a very large surface area, you see, is an ideal medium for absorbing whatever nutrients the plant needs. Actually transporting it into the plant, though, is much more complicated, as is the problem of the albatross getting somewhat bored, and also how I can possibly develop a meaningful plot out of this. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 20:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You would be well advised to stop looking at AFC, and possibly to cease editing Wikipedia completely, so you could devote your time fully to this important concept. If Tolstoy had diddled around here he would never have written &amp;#039;&amp;#039;War and Peace&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. [[User:Thincat|Thincat]] ([[User talk:Thincat|talk]]) 08:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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