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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/WHIRLPOOL EMEA (Europe, Middle East &amp;amp;#38; Africa)]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I need your help understanding how long we should wait for the article I created on WHIRLPOOL EMEA which is the company I represent. Thank you for letting me know.&lt;br /&gt;
Please also let me know if I am missing some actions to make it happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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My Best Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
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■ ROBERTA VANETTI // MANAGER INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION, EDUCATION &amp;amp; SOCIAL MEDIA - WHIRLPOOL EMEA&lt;br /&gt;
Office +39.0332.757071//Mobile +39.335.1400128 // Whirlpool Corporation // www.WhirlpoolCorp.com&lt;br /&gt;
Via G. Borghi, 27 - 21025 Comerio (VA), Italy  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RobertaVanetti|RobertaVanetti]] ([[User talk:RobertaVanetti|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobertaVanetti|contribs]]) 09:46, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:There&amp;#039;s a backlock of about two weeks&amp;#039; worth of unreviewed submissions. However, I&amp;#039;ve declined yours immediately since it didn&amp;#039;t cite any [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. As the last reviewer said, it might be better to cover the subsidiary in the main [[Whirlpool Corporation]] article (with sources, of course). You may also want to have a look at our guideline on [[WP:COI|conflicts of interest]]; writing about your employer is discouraged. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Third Party Liability Insurance For Dog Owners]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Dog_Insurance]]&lt;br /&gt;
Wow! Huon! What can I do?  I have looked at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability_insurance]] as one example. This article has only 4 references and is wholly unsourced. I don&amp;#039;t see Dangerous Dog Insurance spamming. I see this trademark one time. But the trademark is a commonly-used phrase. I doubt anyone will look up &amp;quot;Third Party Liability Insurance For Dog Owners&amp;quot; which is the new title I gave the article (upon your suggestion) because that is not the phrase people use. People use &amp;quot;dangerous Dog Insurance&amp;quot;. But I use that phrase once and you call it &amp;quot;spamming&amp;quot; I don&amp;#039;t really understand why you are saying that my sources are unreliable when they are the insurance industry top sources especially when the wikipedia article on &amp;quot;liability insurance&amp;quot; is unsourced and states this fact on the page. Yikes! thinking about giving up here[[User:Chasehunter1|Chasehunter1]] ([[User talk:Chasehunter1|talk]]) 10:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:First of all, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS|other problematic articles may exist]], but that&amp;#039;s no excuse to create more. Also, while the [[liability insurance]] article indeed cites very few references, you won&amp;#039;t find it mentioning any trademarks nor use the &amp;quot;®&amp;quot; symbol. You also won&amp;#039;t find it giving advice on how to avoid claims, and the sources it does cite all clearly are relevant - unlike, say, the [http://www.ada.gov/ ADA homepage], which doesn&amp;#039;t mention dogs at all. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possibly confusing words in resubmission process? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that it is possible that some users may be confused by the wording of the new section which appears in the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;click here&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; link for resubmission of an updated AFC draft.&lt;br /&gt;
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It says:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- This will add a notice to the bottom of the page and won&amp;#039;t blank it! The new template which says that your draft is waiting for a review will appear at the bottom; simply ignore the old (grey) drafted templates and the old (red) decline templates. A bot will update your article submission. Until then, please don&amp;#039;t change anything in this text box and press &amp;quot;Save page&amp;quot;. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A user might interpret the &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;don&amp;#039;t&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot; in the sentence:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Until then, please don&amp;#039;t change anything in this text box and press &amp;quot;Save page&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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as applying to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;press &amp;quot;Save page&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; as well as to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;change&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, so may exit without saving. Perhaps the wording could be changed to be clearer? - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:How would you rephrase that sentence? I don&amp;#039;t think I&amp;#039;ve ever encountered someone misunderstanding it, though, so I&amp;#039;m not sure this is much of a problem. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The situation which made me look at the wording was [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#did I resubmit - what happens now?|this Teahouse question]], which I assume refers to [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Janet Heimlich (2)]], where I got the impression that the questioner thought that he had resubmitted. I wonder whether the last sentence might usefully be changed to say something like:&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Until then, please don&amp;#039;t change anything in this text box. Just press &amp;quot;Save page&amp;quot;.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:: - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 10:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Max Bonnefous]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How long will this take to be reveiwed?[[Special:Contributions/87.236.252.4|87.236.252.4]] ([[User talk:87.236.252.4|talk]]) 16:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have just reviewed it. [[User:Arthur goes shopping|Arthur goes shopping]] ([[User talk:Arthur goes shopping|talk]]) 16:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New team ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tambov State University]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please take a new article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tambov_State_University  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Александр Граф|Александр Граф]] ([[User talk:Александр Граф|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Александр Граф|contribs]]) 18:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:That draft is submitted for review, but it doesn&amp;#039;t cite any [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are [[WP:Independent sources|independent]] of the subject. Without such sources we cannot accept the submission. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Patexia]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I was hoping you could give me some pointers on how I might rewrite this article to be more neutral. I&amp;#039;ve included citations which reference a few independent magazines/blogs that have written about the subject.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Patexia|Patexia]] ([[User talk:Patexia|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Patexia|contribs]]) 21:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:That does not look too bad now. See if you can manage to remove the word &amp;quot;innovation&amp;quot; from the lead. &amp;quot;Crowdsourcing to its community&amp;quot; does not read well. Perhaps that sentence would work with &amp;quot;to its community&amp;quot; removed? You could wikilink [[patent research]] (or [[prior art]] later in the article) just to make clear to reviewers that it&amp;#039;s a specific meaningful term and not a random buzzword. The word &amp;quot;experts&amp;quot; might be (unjustly) setting off promotional-wording alerts as well, so you could wikilink [[subject matter expert]] too.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[Patent infringement]] should probably be wikilinked too.&lt;br /&gt;
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:More problematic, however, is that the SFGate article is just a press release, and the Intellogist article may or may not be challenged as being an unreliable source. (It&amp;#039;s a Wordpress blog, but to me it looks somewhat reliable.) So you may need to add one or two more independent and reliable sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then try resubmitting it. [[User:Arthur goes shopping|Arthur goes shopping]] ([[User talk:Arthur goes shopping|talk]]) 07:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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