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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Vincotech]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;ve been trying to get an objective review of my article for some time, which is about a company spun off from the German Siemens AG.&lt;br /&gt;
However, past reviewers either considered the sources (from the specialized press) as not reliable, or the article as written like an advertisement.&lt;br /&gt;
My article was admittedly badly written at first, but now I am confident to meet the standards.&lt;br /&gt;
Would you help me see what I obviously must be missing? &lt;br /&gt;
Thank you very much!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Chernian|Chernian]] ([[User talk:Chernian|talk]]) 08:13, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Electronics World and Power Systems Design sources appear to be good sources. However, I think the problem you&amp;#039;re facing is while the company is successful, it&amp;#039;s market is restricted to behind-the-scenes activities for its customers, and there&amp;#039;s very little third party coverage. Most of the references in the article are the company&amp;#039;s own site, or are press releases, which just confirm the company exists. I couldn&amp;#039;t really find much else of substance when I searched for sources myself. Unfortunately, it seems that the world at large isn&amp;#039;t really interested about who makes UPSes or power supplies, as long as they work. Sorry. [[User:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ritchie333&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(cont)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]  11:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Ritchie. Would what you have suggested not also apply to this article: [[Semikron]]? I am looking for the little nuances here, to learn :-) &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Chernian|Chernian]] ([[User talk:Chernian|talk]]) 12:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* The easiest way to tell the difference is to do a news search. Semikron has [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Semikron&amp;amp;source=lnms&amp;amp;tbm=nws lots and lots of hits], whereas Vincotech has [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Vincotech&amp;amp;source=lnms&amp;amp;tbm=nws very little], and of the two hits, one clearly says &amp;quot;Press release&amp;quot;. [[User:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ritchie333&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(cont)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]  13:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Google News certainly is a good source for press articles. But should they not be part of a Wikipedia article, as references, if they support statements made in it? &lt;br /&gt;
My article has been denied, in turns, as either too promotional or lacking references. The article about Semikron I cited states points not bourne up by references. &lt;br /&gt;
The only thing I have learned now is that you don&amp;#039;t need to worry as long Google has enough hits on the topic you&amp;#039;re writing about. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Chernian|Chernian]] ([[User talk:Chernian|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If a news source is directly about an article&amp;#039;s subject, and is obviously independent, then it&amp;#039;s a great source to use. On AfC, provided you list your sources clearly, and it&amp;#039;s possible that somebody else can clean them up and cite them inline, there&amp;#039;s no reason why your submission shouldn&amp;#039;t be accepted. [[WP:NOTCLEANUP|AfD is not cleanup]] might be worth reading. [[User:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ritchie333&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#7F007F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(cont)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]  10:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/NORML UK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/NORML_UK&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
The Madmanbot is in error over the following submission regarding duplicated material for NORML UK.&lt;br /&gt;
The web address referenced by Madmanbot is not the original source of the content of this article.&lt;br /&gt;
I have used the content from the NORML UK web page directly, http://norml-uk.org/ , with permission from the board at NORML and I am myself a NORML UK member.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Copyvio draft removed - [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please can you amend this error and publish this article.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
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Alan&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Almundoman|Almundoman]] ([[User talk:Almundoman|talk]]) 18:38, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We cannot publish that article, for a couple of reasons. Firstly I see no indication that that content has been released under a free license compatible with Wikipedia&amp;#039;s [[Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|CC-BY-SA 3.0 License]]. If it has been released under such a license you&amp;#039;ll have to send a confirmation email to {{mono|permissions-commons@wikimedia.org}} - an example release form is [[WP:Declaration of consent for all enquiries|here]]. But even if the content is freely licensed it&amp;#039;s still highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. It cites not a single [[WP:Independent sources|third-party source]]. It&amp;#039;s unduly [[WP:SPAM|promotional]]. It even speaks of the organization as &amp;quot;we&amp;quot;. In short, it would have to be rewritten so thoroughly that it&amp;#039;s easier to start over than to bother with the license. You may also want to have a look at our guidelines on [[WP:COI|conflicts of interest]] (in short, it may not be a good idea for you to write about your own organization) and on the [[WP:ORG|notability of organizations]]. For now I&amp;#039;ll delete the draft as a copyright violation; if permission is granted to use it under a free license it can be undeleted, but as I said it would be easier to rewrite it from scratch. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Emily Summers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andreavictoria91 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wikipedia talk: Articles for creation/Emily Summers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Need help publishing this. My submission was kicked back for an image I uploaded stating the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for uploading File:Emily Summers Photo.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that this media item is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails the first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media item could be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. If you believe this media item is not replaceable, please:&lt;br /&gt;
Go to the file description page and edit it to add {{Tlx|di-replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original replaceable fair use template.&lt;br /&gt;
On the file discussion page, write the reason why this media item is not replaceable at all.&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively, you can also choose to replace this non-free media item by finding freely licensed media of the same subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or similar) media under a free license, or by creating new media yourself (for example, by taking your own photograph of the subject).&lt;br /&gt;
If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified how these media fully satisfy our non-free content criteria. You can find a list of description pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that even if you follow steps 1 and 2 above, non-free media which could be replaced by freely licensed alternatives will be deleted 2 days after this notification (7 days if uploaded before 13 July 2006), per the non-free content policy. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 01:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:For now, don&amp;#039;t worry about the picture.  Non-free pictures can&amp;#039;t be used in AfC drafts, but can be used in mainspace articles (if and when accepted).  However, the stipulation you&amp;#039;re using is when there can&amp;#039;t be a free replacement (person died before 1990, event before then, or using a logo where no free version can exist).  In your case, that isn&amp;#039;t applicable.  [[User:LionMans Account|LionMans Account]] ([[User talk:LionMans Account|talk]]) 02:24, 6 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Angel Sessions]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipeda talk: Articles for creation/Angel Sessions &lt;br /&gt;
How do you add a picture to wikipedia? &lt;br /&gt;
Thank you.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AngelSessions|AngelSessions]] ([[User talk:AngelSessions|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngelSessions|contribs]]) 23:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:On the left side, look under Toolbox for &amp;quot;Upload File&amp;quot;. [[User:LionMans Account|LionMans Account]] ([[User talk:LionMans Account|talk]]) 02:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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