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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Shinjin RC420TP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for re-reviewing for my update.  I also wanted to thank to [[User:MatthewVanitas]] for a quick response out of thousand pages that has been submitted to be reviewed.  I just wanted to point this out that I would like to use the link this page from Wikipedia&amp;#039;s [[Daewoo_Bus|Daewoo Bus]].  However, the secondary source that I have added here is from another Korean web page that has been gleaned at the Korean version Wikipedia page which I also have linked here which has no external link source information.  I have done to my best ability to translate the necessary information from Google Translation and Bing Translation from these Korean pages.  My hope that I have seeded this page for future user who wish to expand necessary information and possible referenced another source that I may have overlooked. [[User:Rjluna2|Rjluna2]] ([[User talk:Rjluna2|talk]]) 03:13, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short answer is: [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS|Other insufficiently sourced articles exixt]], but that&amp;#039;s no reason to create more. Each submission must stand on its own merits, and the sources are insufficient to establish that this bus is [[WP:N|notable]] enough for an article. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 04:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/93rd Infantry Brigade New York National Guard]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add one image to this page, the unit crest of this unit, the 93rd Inf Bde, how&amp;#039;s it done?  &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size: smaller;&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.125.248.193|71.125.248.193]] ([[User talk:71.125.248.193|talk]]) 04:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&amp;#039;m not totally clear on the legal angle: Is the 93rd technically a US Federal entity or a State entity? Overall, US Federal sources, including Department of Defense, have no copyright so can be uploaded directly to Commons.wikimedia.org by selecting the &amp;quot;Belongs to US Federal source&amp;quot; copyright justification. Then anyone can use it freely. If the 93rd is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; a US Federal source, you can upload an image using the &amp;quot;Upload File&amp;quot; option in &amp;quot;Tools&amp;quot; in your left margin, but &amp;#039;&amp;#039;only after your draft has published&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Just depends whether ownership of the copyright of the emblem rests with the State of New York, or wiht the US Federal government. [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 05:16, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Zaga Christ]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we delete once more a page about a very famous king of Ethiopia, the first king of Africa who lived for a long time in exile in Europe, where he committed suicide,in France (1638), and so, just because I cannot manage to use templates for the citations ? The article appears like this in the &amp;quot;french wikipedia&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:4ethiopie|4ethiopie]] ([[User talk:4ethiopie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/4ethiopie|contribs]]) 10:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like the main thing would be to clean up the article and make it more encyclopedic. [[User:LionMans Account|LionMans Account]] ([[User talk:LionMans Account|talk]]) 11:18, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Post scriptum. Rather than deleting a page of such historical importance, the &amp;quot;french wikipedia&amp;quot; have published the article, asking only for its improvement. What is the importance of Zaga Christ, king of Ethiopia in the 17 th century ? Nothing else than the most important archival resources in the world about a king of Africa ! See the full page in french. The wiki team should rather offer help to someone who can&amp;#039;t manage to use the templates for the citations.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks again  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:4ethiopie|4ethiopie]] ([[User talk:4ethiopie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/4ethiopie|contribs]]) 10:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No one has &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; your article; an editor simply declined to publish your article &amp;#039;&amp;#039;at the moment&amp;#039;&amp;#039; because of formatting, and gave recommendation on how to improve it so you can Resubmit. It is very, very easy to do proper footnotes, and also very important because manually-typed footnotes (like &amp;quot;(2)&amp;quot;) can get out of order over time as the article develops. Proper Wikipedia &amp;quot;blue number&amp;quot; footnotes are much, much better.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But aside from the formatting issue, the article is simply not written properly as a Wikipedia article. An encyclopedia article is supposed to give very clear basic facts, written in an accessible way, neutral and objective, and sourced to reliable published works. What you have instead is an article that is very confusing to anyone not already familiar with the issue, sets out to argue a case (that Zaga was truly the king of Ethiopia) rather than simply record the common argument that he was an imposter, and is largely sourced to archival [[WP:Primary sources]], which means that instead of getting information that has been analyzed and peer-reviewed over time, we&amp;#039;re getting &amp;#039;&amp;#039;your personal interpretation&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of centuries-old documents. Your personal interpretation would be great if you were publishing this as breaking research in an academic journal, but that&amp;#039;s not what an encyclopedia is. An encyclopedia is a place to &amp;#039;&amp;#039;summarise existing reliable published works&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on a topic, not argue new angles by going back to source documents.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We definitely do need an article on Zaga, but your current draft is not really an encyclopedia article, and nor is the version at French Wikipedia. You appear to be using Wikipedia to publish your personal research on the issue, which is what we call [[WP:Original research]]. That&amp;#039;s fine for publishing in an academic work with peer review, but it&amp;#039;s not an encyclopedia article. [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 15:33, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move at [[ Sayd Abdulrahman Bafakhy Tangal Memorial Government College ‎ ]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to change the name of the article from [[Sayd Abdulrahman Bafakhy Tangal Memorial Government College]] to SARBTM Govt College. Please inform the procedure to do the same accordingly.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kovinmel|Kovinmel]] ([[User talk:Kovinmel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kovinmel|contribs]]) 14:01, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::This page is actually for help with [[WP:Articles for creation]] drafts, but since you asked here: I suggest you make this proposal at [[Talk:Sayd Abdulrahman Bafakhy Tangal Memorial Government College]] and at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities]]. If you find that people there agree, the article will be moved accordingly. [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 15:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Watch Hub]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Our post was rejected on the grounds of reliable sources and notability.   We made a mistake in the name of the primary source which is itself listed on wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITP_Publishing_Group  (We called the independent source Promedia Ltd rather than ITP Promedia.)  We hope this clarifies the source as credible.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many Thanks  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:WatchHub|WatchHub]] ([[User talk:WatchHub|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WatchHub|contribs]]) 15:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Somehow I don&amp;#039;t think a publication that bills itself as &amp;quot;[http://www.watchpro.com/in-depth/hot-100/about-the-watchpro-hot-100/ a celebration for the people behind the companies that make up the watch industry in the UK]&amp;quot; would be considered a reliable source. Even if it were, that&amp;#039;s the only independent source given, and one is not enough to establish that the company is [[WP:CORP|notable]] enough for an article. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Content Economy]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am bit confused about the &amp;quot;WP:OR&amp;quot; comment on my article.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought we were supposed to read, understand and paraphrase/rewrite from the original text and give due citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Does it mean, we should take directly from the original text without changing it?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Sri2907|Sri2907]] ([[User talk:Sri2907|talk]]) 17:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Srirekha Chakravarty&lt;br /&gt;
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:You should definitely not copy and paste the original text without changing it; that would be a [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violation]]. I&amp;#039;d say the problem is with the due citations: I cannot tell what sources the &amp;quot;Concept of Content Economy&amp;quot;, for example, is based on. You should use [[Help:Footnotes|footnotes]] to clarify that - see also [[WP:Referencing for beginners]]. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 20:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Review of [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Cleveland Sound]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am inquiring about what specifics were not met in the creation of a talk page for The Cleveland Sound.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any needed info would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:The Cleveland Sound|The Cleveland Sound]] ([[User talk:The Cleveland Sound|talk]]) 21:13, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I expect you intend to create an article, not a talk page. Wikipedia articles require significant coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are [[WP:Independent sources|independent of the subject]], such as newspaper articles about this magazine or reviews in reputable trade magazines. Without such sources we cannot accept an article. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 21:54, 24 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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