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== Refs AND notes together – a &amp;quot;preferred&amp;quot; order? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, I&amp;#039;m looking around [[MOS:REF]], etc., and I can&amp;#039;t seem to find the answer to the following question: Is there a &amp;quot;preferred order&amp;quot; when you have to list references &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; notes together? In other words, is there a MOS guideline about whether references are supposed to be listed &amp;#039;&amp;#039;before&amp;#039;&amp;#039; notes, like so?&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;R1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Reference 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;N1&amp;quot; group=&amp;quot;Note&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Note 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Or, is it OK to list them the other way, like so,&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;N1&amp;quot; group=&amp;quot;Note&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;R1&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; and there&amp;#039;s no guideline about this in terms of the &amp;quot;preferred&amp;quot; order of references and notes? Thanks in advance. --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:20, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:From what I can find, no, see [[WP:FNNR]]. [[User:RegistryKey|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;RegistryKey&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:RegistryKey|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;(RegEdit)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmm that is odd. I thought I saw mention of this somewhere at some point in time but that would have been last decade. FWIW I have seen the &amp;quot;Notes&amp;quot; before the &amp;quot;References&amp;quot; in every article that has both that I have come across. That doesn&amp;#039;t mean there are articles that have them the other way round though. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]]&amp;amp;#124;[[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 04:35, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Ah, that&amp;#039;s about the &amp;quot;footer&amp;quot; section order, in terms of [[WP:ORDER]] (and, like Marnette, I could have sworn that I had seen something about needing to put the &amp;quot;Notes&amp;quot; section before the &amp;quot;References&amp;quot; section...). But that&amp;#039;s not my question. My question is about the actual &amp;#039;&amp;#039;order of the citations themselves&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in the article text. Like I&amp;#039;ve shown above – should it be,&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;R1&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;N1&amp;quot; group=&amp;quot;Note&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; or should it be&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;N1&amp;quot; group=&amp;quot;Note&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;R1&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;, or does it not matter and there&amp;#039;s no guideline about this? TIA... ----[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Not an official MOS, but in every article I&amp;#039;ve seen, the reference is listed before the note, so it would be [1][Note1]. [[User:Joseph2302|Joseph2302]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk]]) 10:40, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: {{Reply to|Joseph2302}} that&amp;#039;s also how I&amp;#039;ve generally seen it done (and what I&amp;#039;ve changed it to on several occasions). So, what I&amp;#039;m wondering is, if this (i.e. &amp;quot;refs before notes&amp;quot;) isn&amp;#039;t included in the MOS, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; it be? {{Reply to|MarnetteD}} any thoughts about this on your end? Thanks to all, in advance! ----[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: In general, the MOS dosen&amp;#039;t deal with citation formats because, as per [[WP:CITEVAR]] there is no Wikipedia &amp;quot;house style&amp;quot; for citations. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Closing Account ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please can you advise how I close my account Jw7415? I opened it some time ago but have rarely used it and would like it deleted. I have looked in the FAQ but cannot find this information.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your help.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Jw7415|Jw7415]] ([[User talk:Jw7415|talk]]) 06:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You can&amp;#039;t close your account, but you can stop using it.  See the section [[#closure of my account]] above for a more detailed answer to a similar question from another user yesterday. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 07:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The question that was above has been [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2015_June_6#closure_of_my_account archived].— [[User:Vchimpanzee|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#070&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Vchimpanzee&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;• [[User talk:Vchimpanzee|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FA0&amp;quot;&amp;gt; talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;• [[Special:Contribs/Vchimpanzee|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contributions&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;•  21:23, 10 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I want a font with serifs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I customise Wikipedia in some way so that I can read it in another font? I&amp;#039;d like to have a font with [[serif]]s, since that is easier to read. [[User:Boot Blues|Boot Blues]] ([[User talk:Boot Blues|talk]]) 16:15, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:See can use your [[Wikipedia:Customisation#Personal_CSS|common.css]] to change fonts. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zero&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== language switch ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have translated an article from English to french and I dont know how to make it link to the original so that it appears as &amp;quot;french&amp;quot; when the article is in english: both articles have the same name but they appear as though there is no relationship between them  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;—&amp;amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lambdacore12|Lambdacore12]] ([[User talk:Lambdacore12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lambdacore12|contribs]]) 18:22, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:See [[Help:Interlanguage links]] for explanation. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zero&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:01, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lancelot Booth 24 September 1845 - 20 May 1913 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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the article states that he was the son of Lancelot Parker Booth and Anne Hedley.  I am a descendant of this family and their son was called Robert Lancelot Booth 19th January 1845.  He was the manager of a colliery and died in Morpeth, Northumberland.  Articles about him can be found on the Durham Mining Museums web site.  His wife was called Jane Charlton.  Robert Lancelot Booth was the brother of the Very rev. dr. Lancelot Parker Booth who had amongst his friends Mahatma Gandhi.  More info.on Wikipedia  &amp;lt;small class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;—&amp;amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/5.81.2.16|5.81.2.16]] ([[User talk:5.81.2.16|talk]]) 18:22, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:It appears that you are requesting that changes be made to [[Lancelot Booth]].  The place to make these requests is the talk page, [[Talk: Lancelot Booth]].  Please provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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